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  Report 2012. How many "real" Biblestudies are they in Jehovah's Witnesses??

  by Dold Agenda in

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  2. friends

  biblestudies in the report, is the numbers they show us correct?.

  i've been thinking of this, and as i am from sweden i use my own country as an example.. to notice is that sweden is high penetrated of internet.

  the young ones here is often really good in english.. and i suppose that hardly one third of the jw kids finaly get baptised.. at most positive.. .

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  Dold Agenda

  Hi there.
  
  Biblestudies in the report, is the numbers they show us correct?
  I've been thinking of this, and as i am from sweden i use my own country as an example.
  To notice is that sweden is high penetrated of Internet. The young ones here is often really good in English.
  And i suppose that hardly one third of the JW kids finaly get Baptised.. at most positive.
  
  So, what do we have in Sweden.
  Aprox. 22.000 Pubs.
  9,716 Biblestudies. That sounds quite okay, doesn't?
  
  Say that, 6.000 of those 22.000 is parents with 2 unbaptised kids/family.
  Then vi have 6.000 kids and 10.000 elderly left hypoteticaly.
  Of these 6000 kids, are 4.500 in the age where JW:s can count them as studies.
  
  4.500.. well, ok! BUT!BOTH parents count them as studies today in JW.
  That will be 9.000 studies in Sweden! Out of 9.716!
  
  This will leave only 716 REAL studies in Sweden, compared to the official 9.716!
  
  Yes, the numbers may differ a little, but my point is that the major biblestudies numbers all over the world is fraud.
  
  Allmost anyone think that the biblestudy numbers is individual studies/persons that is counted.
  When in fact, 60-90%, depending on country, is counted twice!
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  Hi, newbie here

  by casio in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i've lurked on this site for about 18 months and read with interest.

  nice to be able to see that there are others who have similar feelings to me.

  i'm still in but feel a bit of a phoney given the way i think about things.

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  Dold Agenda

  Hi from sweden.
  It normaly takes a few years to see the TTATT...
  I can only lock at myself...
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  Wife's FS report for last month... Zero!

  by Captain Obvious in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i could just be reading too far into this but... even with plenty of opportunities and time to go, she didn't seem to make it out last month.

  last night she said she was gonna go out today (the 1st) but... she's downstairs at the moment sipping coffee watching tv.

  a few weeks ago on the long drive back from the assembly we talked about fs.

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  Dont do anything... i would say.
  Take it really slow.
  
  I manage to get my family out... it tok 2 years from the beginning.
  Cult brains is hard to overcome...
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  Anonymous have Bethelite info

  by snare&racket in

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  Dold Agenda

  May Jehovah GOD continue to bless your hard
  work serving his 'household'. / sinceraly yours
  Brother in faith from Sweden cirquit 14:2

  Hello Snare! I did an internet search and the email address of [email protected] appears to be someone from Sweden who has a nickname/moniker of M84Hbg SE.

  Will see if i find something out of this.
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  Ironic new Awake cover...

  by cedars in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i kid you not.... .

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  cedars.

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  Dold Agenda

  elderelite

  I cant know how much you have to go through every day... when you know so much about this (JW)..
  ie all falsehoud etc..

  I am not sure I couldnt take it my self without exploding...
  
  You must have a wery strong personal agenda right?
  (english is aperently not my native langugae...)
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  New here

  by konceptual99 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i am new here, been lurking for a while but felt compeled to join as i would like to comment on more and more of the topics i come across.

  by way of an introduction here is some info about me.. i am an active jw, married with a family, living in the uk.

  i serve as a ms and have done for many years.

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  Dold Agenda

  Welcome!

  I was exactly like you 10 years ago..

  Then we realized that..

  JW is all a lie and crap with roots from the 1800...
  the bible is no more than an old book from king Josia that wanted to gather his people and maked therefore up a great history to them.
  Investigations has learned me that there is no Jehova either..
  
  we have now faded slowly away
  we are not DF or anything, relatives still talk to us but it is limited of course
  We moved to another city.
  We have new friends outside today... the kids have new better friends and it is going very well for them in their new school..
  
  (sorry for my spelling, english is not my native language..)
  
  Have you read raymond Franz Crisis of Consience?
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raymond_Franz

  I think that was a wery humble but exposure book about JW...
  
  Stick around and write more!
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  Surprise Elder's Visit-FAIL

  by iclone in

  1. jw
  2. friends

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  Dold Agenda

  Bwa ha ha!

  You got them alright!
  
  I dont think they will be coming back..
  But.. if you not is DF before this... my guess is, they can hunt you down...
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  Some of you aren't going to like this news, but here goes...

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  rick simons, candace conti's attorney, will be interviewed on the six screens of the watchtower conference phone line this evening.

  there's a good chance that candace will join in, but that's not set in stone.

  the host of the program, rick, told me to tell everybody that he is learning how to calm down and to do better on these conference calls.

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  Dold Agenda

  Hi, Sweden here.
  
  Is there a summary somewhere of the main subjects in the calling?
  (it should been h... expensive to call in from sweden.)
  
  Or could some person here try to do it for us that was not able to listen?
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  New Video aka Sparlock- View of Active JW

  by XBEHERE in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so over the weekend i was in a cargroup for service, yes i still go out but i dont ring doorbells or knock i just go out to keep wife and other elders off my back, anyway the video came up and i said nothing about it but the other 3 people in the car ( a pioneer and 1 elder, 1 publisher) said that it was good.

  yes you heard correctly good!

  the pioneer even stated that the annimation was good and it is short enough to hold a young childs attention.

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  Amelia A :Edited to add that the Spanish and Italian exjw community are eagerly anticipating it being released in their language.

  We in Sweden/nordic countries is also waiting for our language eagerly
  
  But we will probably get it among the lasts.. they will only have one big convention-date in the end of July here..
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  So you think you were a True Witness?

  by FaithfulBrother in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  fuck you.. i was raised in a jw family in the 1980's-1990's where we had to do the daily text 7 days a week during breakfast at the family table at 7am sharp between 7:00-7:15am.

  this was followed by a "spiritual discussion," which was held every morning between 7:15am and 8:00am.. since we were homeschooled, our weekly field service was required from childhood on friday mornings immediately following the spiritual discussion, followed by saturday afternoon field service after the bookstudy, as well as sunday afternoon field service after the watchtower study.. i was also required to read each watchtower and awake magazine and give oral reports about each magazine i read in order for my father to be sure that i had actually read them.

  i can't remember for sure, but i think each watchtower and awake was released every two weeks back then, making a new magazine to read every single week, followed by an oral report on every single article (including the watchtower study articles which i also had to read, then study in our weekly family watchtower study where we marked our answers, then studied again at the sunday watchtower study).. in addition to this, we also had a weekly family bible study at night each week, had a family bookstudy at night in which we marked our answers for the saturday morning bookstudy, had a family watchtower study at night where we marked our answers for the sunday morning watchtower study, had a family prayer together every night before bed, every morning before and after breakfast and every night before and after dinner (not including our half-family prayers for lunch by my mother since we were homeschooled.).

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  Dold Agenda

  WOW!?
  Thanks for that... and that my parents let me have a little more normal life in sweden.

  So u are drinking, i can relate to that and understand why.
  (i was a hevely drinker myself when i realised that my whole 25 first years was only a total long lie and mostly a waste)

  Anyhow.. alcohol it's not good in the longtime... i know for sure that it is hard, but try to stay away from it every day.
  Try to limit it to one day first maybe? Friday evening?